GURUNATH:

Good morning I’m Yogiraj Gurunath Siddhanath. I wish you a very good morning.

KWXX:

Once again, you have a name and a title. And I was thinking about this because I knew I would be speaking with you this morning. What’s the word? Is it Yogi?

GURUNATH:

Yogiraj

KWXX:

Yogiraj. Now that’s one of those words we hear all the time and don’t really know what it means. What does it actually signify?

GURUNATH:

The word “Yogiraj” means he who is a Master of Yoga and there is a way and a means of knowing how a person is a Yogiraj and a Master of Yoga. Firstly, he can go into a state of samadhi, a state of an enlightened awareness and will. But people would like to validate this because if I go into this state they would not be able to validate it. And this one of the special features which I’m here to make you experience is that when I go into a state it is you who are with me here. I endeavor to make you experience my state, the Still Mind State of Expanded Consciousness. That’s what it is, bereft of thought and devoid of breath. And when I speak to people, when I go to these experiential empowerments people are there receptive and waiting, not using their mind, not sitting thinkingly, sitting feelingly, wanting to experience rather than to wanting to know the intellectual academics of what yoga is and what Yogiraj is. So Yogiraj goes into a state he manifests this state in your consciousness where when I’m in a Still State of Expanded Consciousness you also get into the Still State of Expanded Consciousness. This is the first time ever it’s happening. If there are ten people the same effect will be there to ten receptive people and the same effect will be there for a hundred receptive people. But if the mind interferes or you sit with a judgmental attitude that will negate the inflow of this Higher Consciousness. And everybody’s experiencing it now as I go along the island touring and giving people a Still Mind State of Tranquil Awareness where there are no thoughts. There are no thoughts in the rivers of the mind’s lake. And in the placid lake of the Still Mind you can see your Divine Indweller.

KWXX:

This is risky business for someone like me who is supposed to think of questions to ask you. If I get a little too placid it will be a very silent interview. I’m curious about a lot of things obviously. I wanted to know what the title signified. Yoga is also a word that just floats around. Everybody uses it without perhaps knowing what it really means. Is it a series of schools of discipline or attitude?

GURUNATH:

Well, firstly the word “yoga”, I hear this word the first time when I come here, ”yoga.” It’s not “yoga” it’s “Yog.” And the people here call Yog “yoga.” Like they call Ram “Rama.” The word is Yog. Now when they say yoga here they imply postural integration, asanas, where they do the Yog asanas, the movement of body in various postures to bring about health. Yog asanas are like a self given shiatsu, self given massage where you press and compress your body, you heal yourself with these asanas. But that is also not yoga, it’s correctly knows as yogasanas and is not called Hatha Yog, it’s known as Kutastha Yog, the Yog of postural integration of the body. Then there is the Hatha Yog, which is the Sun and Moon breath of the left and right nostril. When you equalize those breaths you get into a state of Tranquil Awareness. That is Hatha Yog. The left nostril signifies the Moon breath. The right nostril signified the Sun breath, which is called the Pingala. The left breath is called the Ida, the Moon breath. Then you have different schools and disciplines of Yog. But, basically and essentially Yog is not postures of integrations of asanas. Essentially the core meaning of Yog is samadhi. It means composed mind. It means the union of the finite with the Infinite Consciousness. When this fusion of the finitized consciousness which is inherent in every
human being, it expands and merges into the Infinite Consciousness, it is called Yog.

KWXX:

Is samadhi something that we’ve always had and have just forgotten?

GURUNATH:

Samadhi is a natural state of enlightenment. When the Consciousness enters different sheaths of the body, there is a descent of this state of awareness into grosser and grosser sheaths. This state of awareness called the unfettered soul of the Hamsa, it symbolizes the free spirit, when it enters different states, you see. Like there is a saying, I have tell you before I explain this. There’s a poem I had…

“This world our sages did perceive as mindstuff materialized
In relative sequence it has been deceiving mortal eyes.”

And this is what is called maya. So as you get engrossed in the various sheaths of the body then you have the mental sheath. The Consciousness enters the mental sheath. Then it enters the astral sheath of emotions. And then it enters the etheric sheath. And then it enters the womb and the material sheath of flesh and blood and bone. And it gets more and more restricted as it in relative sequence by various permutation combinations and the aggregation of molecules it becomes denser and denser and denser. The Consciousness is trapped within the physical body, the emotional body and the mental body. And therefore, the process is to get to its parent sources, its natural state. And therefore, there are certain practices, scientific practices, which are volitional and other practices which are mystical, just getting absorbed. It is absorption which is involved to get to your natural state of enlightenment. So essentially, it is a natural state . It is your birthright. You are It. You are the natural state of enlightenment, but you are being caught in the trammels of the senses. And that’s why man, where he takes birth in the womb of a mother, he comes out and he is turned upside down and given a whack on the behind. And he starts va sah ham sah, he starts breathing Ham Sah. And his breath penetrates and injects his physical body with such force that the cause is mistaken for the effect, and man idolatrously imagines himself to be the body and not the Soul, whereas he is the Consciousness. And this is what goes on. So the breath is infused into the flesh with such force that you think you are the body, whereas you are actually the Soul. And yoga is a technique to reverse the electrical flow of prana, regain paradise lost. It’s paradise lost and paradise regained. And when you by the yogic process reverse your process, interiorize, you merge into your own Divine Consciousness and realize that you are a Soul and have a body. Whereas the common people today think that they are a body and possess a Soul. It’s not that. Yoga teaches that you are a spirit unfettered in the body and possess an appendix, an attaché, an attachment of the body which is just your garment which you change from life to life.

KWXX:

If I were poised, about to be born somewhere, and I knew that in this process I’m going to forget and lose everything is this voluntary? I mean, do we exist somewhere and choose to be born and is there a reason for that?

GURUNATH:

This is the process of p_____. Certain questions cannot be answered completely as to the Why and Isness of Creation. That is not a scope and jurisdiction of the intellectual mind, but it is the scope of personal experience called samadhi. That is the state of natural enlightenment which we should practice and experience the why and whereofs of the mysteries of the Universe. It’s more to be experienced than talked of.

KWXX:

It seems to me that we all sort of possess some sort of magnetism something, some kind of yearning. I’ve talked with friends about this. There’s some feeling inside of wanting to be drawn somewhere, even without any knowledge, intellectual knowledge of practices and stuff like that. So, here’s this feeling inside that compels me to want to rise up. Now here I am in a state of forgetfulness and so I’m imprisoned in this body have only my choices. And if I never met you or never heard of Yog I would be of benefit of some choices. Now I’ve always been curious about that. What is this kind of little bubble that rises inside you. And another question that came this morning, we’re talking about children, I asked a, I was talking to a man who is a student if the Torah, he’s a chiropractor in town. And the thing that always baffled me is in life you can see situations where a person can look at a way of doing something here with a very positive result, living, and a way of living here with a way of dark result. And you see people weighing these and choosing this. Now here, if you go this path, everyone’s happy, life is full and rich or if you go this path it’s not that way. And he told me that there, he said, “Oh, yes. There’s a study, there’s a word for this in Hebrew, a propensity toward evil.” He said they’ve been studying this for thousands of years. What is it in us that faced with two obvious choices we would choose the dark one instead of the light one? I’m not asking for answer, it’s just that I’ve noticed that. I experience it within myself. The thing that I’m curious about is this forgetfulness. My friend called it polishing the veil. That when you are born, something drops over you and you forget, and you spend your whole life polishing the veil and then eventually it becomes clearer and clearer and then you can see through to the other side.

GURUNATH:

It’s like cleaning the lamp glass. There’s a lot of soot on the lamp. The flame of Divinity is each lamp glass, which is you. And as you clean the lamp glass by a process called sadhana. You see, in India, its recorded the only country in the world where people spend
a lifetime making it their business to seek God, to seek the Divine Indweller, nothing else.
Now the first question, the answer, I’ll make it very simple. I’ll try to make it as simple as possible. The urge to go back to your parent source - In the beginning there was the Absolute Stillness, the silence of the Seven Eternities. Profound, the Great Fathomless Deep, which was so essential and truthful in its nothingness that out of it everything came. And then there was the primordial explosion of the Great Bang, the sound of Aum, the light sound explosion of billions and trillions of supernovae. Now when this explosion took place, there was an, it was a supernovae nuclear explosion of inconceivable proportions whose sound is resonating after billions of years even today, which is forming our creation and giving birth to life on this planet, all species including man, by the virtue of the sound called Aum. A very unique thing happened during this explosion and by - this sound lay in the oceans of space for eons of billions of years - and this sound by molecular aggregation formed the stars and galaxies and quasars and our planet and Earth and ultimately after eons of billions and trillions of years man was formed on this seething planet of volcanoes and mineral ash, as it cooled. And this Big Island is an example. The latest of the islands being born on Earth, when the hot metallic lava flow comes its still in the process of making. But what I’m trying to tell you that this little urge of bubble somehow mysteriously that great Infinite Silence was ensouled in every atom which is in your body now. That is your parent source, before the everything was the Nothing, was He About Whom Naught May Be Said, who people variously call God, Allah, Ishwar. Now this Stillness is the unknowing urge for your to get back. In every atom is that Still Silence, that Still Space of Infinite Peace. For therefore knowing and unknowingly this little bubble as you say, this urge to get back to its parent source of Infinity. So, Yoga is the science, the way, and the path to actualize the essence of your Being. It is nothing to do with culture or religion, it’s just your path to Truth. It’s an inner ascent through every more refined and ever more expanded spheres of Consciousness to get to Divinity, that Stillness before the Big Bang, which lies at the core of your own Being. This is one of the strongest pulls and reasons that you get back to your parent source. Within each one of us is this mystic inconceivable, indescribable Silence and Love, and therefore this urge to get back to you naturalness, Sahaj Samadhi, your natural state.

KWXX:

It’s very inviting. But you know in conversation with other friends, I think if we are at some point to arrive at our beginning, there is a fear in some that we will merge with the All and Everything and lose our singular identity. So, that’s a question. It’s enough of a question for some people to say, “That’s O.K. I’m happy where I am. I don’t want become a drop in the Ocean.”

GURUNATH:

Yes. Now this is a very, very interesting question and I don’t know how you really got it exactly in the bull’s eye. The questions are really excellent. Now in this case, I’ll tell you. The mind is a flow of thoughts of either the past, broodings of the past or aspirations of the future. It is never in the Now. This mind on the progress of the inner ascent for Truth is an obstacle. It is called the Great Deceiver. I don’t mean in your ordinary sense when you work on computers - it should be used for that. But when you go in to depth, it negates the inflow of Higher Knowledge. The mind tells you half the Truth. It tells you when you, who are the drop, merge into the Ocean you should lose your identity. So now here there is an identity crisis which everybody fears. But have no fear, the mind is telling the truth but only the half truth. And I’m going to complete that half truth, because telling the half truth and misleading people is a lie. Because it misleads. Therefore, when the drop, or the Soul, is merged into the Spirit of Ocean, sure, it does lose its identity. There is an identity crisis. But this crisis is created by half truth of the mind. What actually happens is when the drop he soul merges into the Ocean of Spirit, it does merge into the Ocean of Spirit, but it does not lose its identity. It does not get lost in the Ocean. Some people say, “Oh! My beautiful car, my children, my friends my you know…friends... Why would I like to lose my identity?” So there is a identity crisis, That’s what the minds gives the intellectual people and philosophers to know. But the Realized Yogis know. This is not true, I tell you so. Now when the drop merges into the Ocean, it does merge its individual identity into the Cosmic Identity but it does not lose its identity. Keeping its identity it partakes - this is the other half of the truth - it does not lose its identity, the drop merging into the Ocean. It merges into the Ocean but it partakes of the identity, it partakes of the Awareness of the Ocean. So you do not become lost unto yourself but you expand into a Divine Consciousness. So there is no fear, there is no trauma, there is no identity crisis. You maintain your identity, only maintaining your identity, you expand into your Infinite Identity. This is the complete truth. So have no fear, take the leap. Dive headlong into the Divine experience of Samadhi and live on, for you shall be yourself and much, much more. So therefore, it’s time to go ahead and spread World Peace. This process of Samadhi radiates Love for World Peace. The process itself, you radiate Love for World Peace. This is important. One person Realized is more useful to humanity than a thousand philanthropists because when he is Realized, he radiates Love for World Peace. And this is what is very, very important, a message of World Peace. We are running late. We must step up the program and do any - that’s why I teach no cult or religion. I tell everyone, “Humanity is the only Religion, and Breath its only Prayer.

KWXX:

Well it’s very attractive. I mean, it’s naturally attractive. I remember as you mentioned earlier we are drawn to that state, so it’s just curious to me, the resistance to that. Why we…I had a question, is it possible - you spoke of the mind being involved in the future and the past - is it possible to become friendly with your mind so that it is a passive witness to what’s going on without constantly interfering and interpreting your past or your future. I mean, I always thought the mind was something like your foot or your elbow or your kidney. It’s there, it has a job to do, a beautiful, magnificent servant who has taken on too much responsibility. So it seems the task is to invite the mind to stick with what it’s supposed to do and not jump in front and start feeding you all of this baloney. But you know what I mean? There it is. I had an experience once. I became angry with my own mind. I had a big fight, I yelled at myself, driving along, because my mind was feeding me this information. So I had this argument. And a couple of days later I apologized to my mind, I said, “I’m very sorry. You are always trying to do your job. You haven’t been given proper instructions. So instead of giving me all of this theory, do something good for me like remember where I left my keys. Find my socks for me and do the things you are intended to do.” And I felt something change inside me. I felt as though I was - it was like training a dog. Give it a right thing to do and suddenly it stopped interfering with me all the time. You know it was an odd experience. The oddest part was when I felt that I should apologize because I was denigrating a part of myself. And it seems in a lot of disciplines and practices the tendency is to want to separate the mind out by some surgery. Take it out of the body and dispense with it. But you can’t do that can you?

GURUNATH:

You cannot do that. Now the main techniques, they always say on the paths - the various disciplines of the science and the art of Yoga - they always say do not fight or struggle with the mind, just be aware of the mind. And one of the greatest catalysts and the tools for transforming your mind - you see the mind, it’s very tricky here - the mind is actually a mirage in time and causation. The mind when it is flowing, when there is a train and a succession of thoughts which should never be resisted, never plucked out, or never be told to stop forcefully because the more you try to stop the mind, the more powerful it becomes, the more challenges it resists. So let it alone and be a passive witness, it’s called a Sahkshi. And there are techniques like in the Hamsa Yoga Sangh which I’m doing, we have the technique of the Ham Sah, where we observe the thoughts and the breath. Or like in vipasana, you have the anapanasati, the Buddhist technique, which is from India because Buddha himself was a person from India himself from Bharath-Varhsa. When you observe the mind it stills and subsides. Now there is one very interesting thing here. The mind, the mind - the moment it is thinking, train of thoughts, it is the mind - and the moment it stills, it is transformed into Consciousness or the Soul. So it’s a dual nature. So we have no resistance or opposition to the mind, we just have to...

”Then tamed and tuned to Nature’s flow
Mind melts into the opal glow
Radiating from the Soul within
Where Wisdom’s mystic fire is King”

So the opal glow of the mind is the mystic fire. So, it’s very subtle and it has to be taken gently. You have to hold on to living Awareness.

KWXX:

Thank you.